Talk:Esmee/@comment-24319875-20140314060409/@comment-14800267-20140315001830

I watch the webisodes, and it appears I have a far better understanding of them than you do. I could go into why they choose to portray Rebels as the "good" characters, and only have implied "bad" Rebels in the background, but I'm pretty sure you're not going to a) listen or b) understand because it would be a big long post about how MH and EAH are marketed and your attention span doesn't seem to last that long. Especially when contridicted.

ThePowerpuffKittie: As I said to Raven, Rebels are the ones who DON'T want to obey their destinies. It's not "good" is Rebel, "bad" is Royal. But you were polite about it, so I'll explain further. Put the Disney black/white bad/good out of your head. The MH and EAH guys have never been clear cut like that. They are at the moment, but that's a marketing play. They're just starting to hint at grey areas, like Duchess and will expand later.

Rebels are defined as characters who are rebelling against the destiny set by them. Thus the word Rebels. Jane is a Rebel in that she does not want to follow her destiny. She wants to go pirating and has little to no interest in chasing Pan, which is her destiny. SHE IS REBELLING AGAINST HER DESTINY. Not just Rebellious in general. That's not a requirement. Look at Raven. She's the head rebel, but not particually rebellious in other areas outside following her destiny.

Esmee is a Rebel by proxy- just like Maddie. Maddie has no problems following her destiny, nor does Esmee. The reason both Maddie and Esmee are then considered Rebels is because they sympathise with the movement. They would prefer to see it changed to save their friends from horrible fates rather than stick to it themselves.

If Rebel=Good and Royal=Bad, how does one explain people like Briar, who's a Royal?

MonsterGirl2002- Because she's clearly either very young physically or very young mentally and has resorted to insults and blocking her ears and shutting her eyes when corrected.