Board Thread:Fanon Discussion/@comment-4598697-20150920010905/@comment-27226023-20150920070958

Captain Frosty wrote: Redwolf-regan wrote: "Big Bad Wolf" OC's of any variation are generally annoying to me. This Wik is swamped with them for some reason.

Like it's always The Three Little Pigs, Red Riding Hood, Boy who cried Wolf. Don't people realize there are even more interesting stories invovling wolves that fall under the radar? You'd be surprised, while the fairytales themselves are quite obscure, they are fascinating. I wish there was more culture on this Wiki.

Also Beauty and the Beast OCs. Doesn't matter how long your page is, swamped with how many relationships that OC has had and whatever soap opera bullcrap you can stuff into it doesn't make it interesting at all really. In fact it makes the writing even more boring and reading the page a chore...which is saying something because I do love reading and love developed OCs with backstories. You can only add so much sauce to bread before it gets stale. Idk, it's just weird to me that people make OC's of characters that are already considered canon in the show. I love how you vaguely decided to come out for me and my OC, really, it means a lot for you to take time out of your day to think about my OC by writing this in spite of her. It's so nice to receive recognition like this, even though it's truly as petty and low as can get. I wish you'd try to deny that this is directed toward me, because the proof is right here in front of everyone to see. Who has a BatB OC with a long ass page? Yep, that's me. Does this said OC have a lot of relationships on her page? Yeah, definitely, and I'm not even done yet. Does this OC have any "soap opera bullshit" on her page? Well maybe in your opinion, but people in real life go through so much stuff, and it's realistic to have characters go through stuff. What this OC has been through is not even as much messed up stuff that others go through in life, but excuse me for trying to make a realistic character you know.

My favourite thing about your pet peeves is how ironic they are. You're calling people out for Big Bad Wolf OCs and using the same damn story as a canon character, but have you really looked at your own OC? I get it, Calli is a coyote and that's not the same as a wolf or whatever, but it seems like you're using that miniscule difference to seem more "cultured" and edgy or whatever, but you're really just coming off as condescending and pompous, and it'a obvious that you think people are intimidated by you, but naaah. Oh, and may I just say that Calli looks uncannily similar to Cerise, and they're kind of the same animal, so oh, won't you look at that. Don't even attempt to come for my OCs because they have the same tell as Rosabella, because let me set some facts straight. First of all, my BatB OCs were all made way before Rosabella was even trademarked, they've been around within a week of Ever After High's premiere, and boy have they come a long way, but they're still developing. Calli on the other hand? We have Cerise who's been on the show since it first came out, and yet you still couldn't come up with something other than a Cerise look alike? Okay. Second, if you've actually bothered to look at my pages before skimming over and just saying "they're unoriginal trash and I can't formulate an unbiased opinion because they're cliche since BatB OCs are everywhere and there's already one on the show hurr durr" you'd see that technically they're not even from Beauty and the Beast, they're from the original novelised version, called La Belle et La Bête, which is far more interesting that Beauty and the Beast, and the parallels between the story and my OCS are genius and impeccable.

Oh, by the way have you had your head to far up your ass to notice how Calli's page was before you added all those little tabs? Not to mention her relationships page alone it longer than some pages on here? I get that relationships are important for an OCs development, but these relationships were roleplayed and they're nor anything I pulled out of my ass just to make my page longer. Not to mention my OC is a friendly and sweet person, so it makes sense for her to have a lot of acquaintances. As you mentioned before, your character is kind of an angry sociopath or something (wow, what a half assed and inaccurate representation of someone with mental illness) so I don't think she would have as many friends considering the internalised ableism people have and other factors, but I'm not here to be an as hole and judge, but I should considering you've done that to me. Like, how dare you try to badmouth me when you're seriously hitting your own pet peeves right on the head of the nail. If you really have that much of a problem with my OC, you need to either tell me, or just blatantly express it because you think you're so cute and edgy with the vague condescending call out nonsense, and I am not having it. "I love how you vaguely decided to come out for me and my OC, really,"

~ Aaah there you are. I've been noticing your little passive aggressive comments around the wiki but didn't choose to say anything for awhile. Now you're frothing at the mouth because I did the same thing to you. Doesn't feel too good does it? :)

" Not to mention my OC is a friendly and sweet person, so it makes sense for her to have a lot of acquaintances. As you mentioned before, your character is kind of an angry sociopath or something (wow, what a half assed and inaccurate representation of someone with mental illness)"

How quaint. I did mention something like this but in no way did I imply my OC was a sociopath. I was suspicious that she came off as such but made it abundantly clear that it wasn't my intention. That she wasn't suppose to "represent" people with a mental disorder and she wasn't suppose to be a sociopath. So wow, what half assed reading comprhension.

" Oh, by the way have you had your head to far up your ass to notice how Calli's page was before you added all those little tabs? Not to mention her relationships page alone it longer than some pages on here? I get that relationships are important for an OCs development, but these relationships were roleplayed and they're nor anything I pulled out of my ass just to make my page longer."

 I don't get what your point is here. I'll admit that some of the relationships are a little stale which I intend to fix in the near future. Also here's a neat little concept that may actually surprise you: roleplaying is a great way for people to get a feel for how their OCs interact with each other. So yeah they are roleplayed. I fail to see anything wrong with that. So no they weren't just "pulled out of my ass" they were actively discussed with people via chat/rolepaying. Again I fail to see how this concept is a bad thing.

Well maybe in your opinion, but people in real life go through so much stuff, and it's realistic to have characters go through stuff. What this OC has been through is not even as much messed up stuff that others go through in life, but excuse me for trying to make a realistic character you know.

So yeah the relationships are built from the characters going through "stuff" as you oh so eloquently put it.

"Calli is a coyote and that's not the same as a wolf or whatever, but it seems like you're using that miniscule difference to seem more "cultured" and edgy or whatever, but you're really just coming off as condescending and pompous"

And you come off as a complete ignoramous if that's what you really think. Calli is a coyote because I wanted to make a coyote character. They're my favorite animals. And it just so happens that I am fascinated with Native American culture/folklore whic coyotes are very prominent in. That fact that you think I was trying to be "cultured" and "edgy" just for this alone leads me to take your asshurt rant not very seriously. In fact it's pathetic. As I read through this it seems to me you're grasping at straws now. Calling me condescending and pompous for making a coyote character who's Native American? What?

"Second, if you've actually bothered to look at my pages before skimming over and just saying "they're unoriginal trash and I can't formulate an unbiased opinion because they're cliche since BatB OCs are everywhere and there's already one on the show hurr durr" you'd see that technically they're not even from Beauty and the Beast, they're from the original novelised version, called La Belle et La Bête, which is far more interesting that Beauty and the Beast, and the parallels between the story and my OCS are genius and impeccable"

Lol. You say I come of as pompous and condescending yet here you are "HOW DARE YOU!? MY OCS ARE GENIUS AND IMPECCABLE!"

"   so I don't think she would have as many friends considering the internalised ableism people have and other factors, but I'm not here to be an as hole and judge, but I should considering you've done that to me"

I'm not really doing anything except giving back what you've been doing to me since joining the Wiki.

"Like, how dare you try to badmouth me when you're seriously hitting your own pet peeves right on the head of the nail. If you really have that much of a problem with my OC, you need to either tell me, or just blatantly express it because you think you're so cute and edgy with the vague condescending call out nonsense, and I am not having it."

Yeah I have a problem with your OCs. They're boring to me. I read over her page and to me it came of as conceited and written by someone who was full of themselves. Now reading this delightful little response you have here has proven my point. So that being said I have a pretty huge problem with you too because seeing the times you've posted around you come off as someone who's bitter about their "impeccable" little characters not getting attention. Also the whole "characters who have nice art on their profiles are flat and bland!" shitfest which really irritated me as opposed to "this character is flat and bland heres why" and providing any useful critique. But no, you come off as a huge hypocrite. You're the type of person that I hate on this Wiki. The kind who sees making characters as some fucking competitive sport rather than just having fun with it.

" Calli on the other hand? We have Cerise who's been on the show since it first came out, and yet you still couldn't come up with something other than a Cerise look alike? Okay" 

Also Calli looking like Cerise was intentional. I've said that before too because it was jokingly stated that coyotes look like wolves. Other than the fact that they both have long ears and similar hair that's where the simlarities end as far as I'm concerned. So yeah they are suppose to look similar because that's how I planned it.

That being said I could give less of a shit with what you think of my OC. She's still a work in progress. She's also my first OC. Mistakes are going to be made. Cliches found. Unlike you who apparantly has time in the world to plant her ass on the computer and use installments of Gossip Girl on her OCs page, while offhandedly calling other people's OCs "bland" for having nice art, I do have a life outside this Wiki so I don't have the time to nitpick over every little thing to make my OC "impeccable" and "perfect".

I don't expect anyone to be "intimidated" by me in any way. That's my intention here on the Wiki. But I sure as shit fire am not going to sit back and smile pleasantly while some asshat takes a shit on my head. I can gurantee you that right now.

"I don't think she would have as many friends considering the internalised ableism people have and other factors"

I'll make myself clear again, these relationships were built upon INTERACTION inside and outside of roleplay. There are more characterst that hate/dislike Calli than there are the ones who are friends with her. She's a mean character. She was always SUPPOSE to be a mean character. Not a sociopath. Unlike you who wants to make a Mary Sueish character who is just oh so nice and sweet and cute tee hee! I swear to god. My eyes roll so hard my retinas sting.

But I'm sure it's much easier for you to believe that Calli is a sociopathical Cerise look alike because god forbid I make a character who isn't conventially a perfect little princess who everyoone just loves so much and who's just so "perfect" and "impeccable".