Board Thread:Fanon Discussion/@comment-4598697-20150920010905/@comment-29789305-20150921033942

Redwolf-regan wrote: Captain Frosty wrote: Redwolf-regan wrote: blah blah psh psh "I love how you vaguely decided to come out for me and my OC, really," ~ Aaah there you are. I've been noticing your little passive aggressive comments around the wiki but didn't choose to say anything for awhile. Now you're frothing at the mouth because I did the same thing to you. Doesn't feel too good does it? :)

" Not to mention my OC is a friendly and sweet person, so it makes sense for her to have a lot of acquaintances. As you mentioned before, your character is kind of an angry sociopath or something (wow, what a half assed and inaccurate representation of someone with mental illness)"

How quaint. I did mention something like this but in no way did I imply my OC was a sociopath. I was suspicious that she came off as such but made it abundantly clear that it wasn't my intention. That she wasn't suppose to "represent" people with a mental disorder and she wasn't suppose to be a sociopath. So wow, what half assed reading comprhension.

" Oh, by the way have you had your head to far up your ass to notice how Calli's page was before you added all those little tabs? Not to mention her relationships page alone it longer than some pages on here? I get that relationships are important for an OCs development, but these relationships were roleplayed and they're nor anything I pulled out of my ass just to make my page longer."

 I don't get what your point is here. I'll admit that some of the relationships are a little stale which I intend to fix in the near future. Also here's a neat little concept that may actually surprise you: roleplaying is a great way for people to get a feel for how their OCs interact with each other. So yeah they are roleplayed. I fail to see anything wrong with that. So no they weren't just "pulled out of my ass" they were actively discussed with people via chat/rolepaying. Again I fail to see how this concept is a bad thing.

Well maybe in your opinion, but people in real life go through so much stuff, and it's realistic to have characters go through stuff. What this OC has been through is not even as much messed up stuff that others go through in life, but excuse me for trying to make a realistic character you know.

So yeah the relationships are built from the characters going through "stuff" as you oh so eloquently put it. The tabs thing I used so the page wouldn't be exceedingly long because I did realize how long her page was getting as well as the confusion. Naturally yes her Relationship page is hefty because there is family background as well as the list of enemies, friends, acquaintances she has. Themes, Trivia, Headcannons are amongst other things I have for this character. Again because I didn't want to page stretch. If you "get" how relationships are an important aspect for developing OC than why does it bother you so much how long her page is?

"Calli is a coyote and that's not the same as a wolf or whatever, but it seems like you're using that miniscule difference to seem more "cultured" and edgy or whatever, but you're really just coming off as condescending and pompous"

And you come off as a complete ignoramus if that's what you really think. Calli is a coyote because I wanted to make a coyote character. They're my favorite animals (GASP). And it just so happens that I am fascinated with Native American culture/folklore which coyotes are very prominent in. That fact that you think I was trying to be "cultured" and "edgy" just for this alone leads me to take your asshurt rant not very seriously. In fact it's pathetic. As I read through this it seems to me you're grasping at straws now. Calling me condescending and pompous for making a coyote character who's Native American? What?

"Second, if you've actually bothered to look at my pages before skimming over and just saying "they're unoriginal trash and I can't formulate an unbiased opinion because they're cliche since BatB OCs are everywhere and there's already one on the show hurr durr" you'd see that technically they're not even from Beauty and the Beast, they're from the original novelised version, called La Belle et La Bête, which is far more interesting that Beauty and the Beast, and the parallels between the story and my OCS are genius and impeccable"

Lol. You say I come of as pompous and condescending yet here you are "HOW DARE YOU!? MY OCS PARALLELS ARE GENIUS AND IMPECCABLE!"

"   so I don't think she would have as many friends considering the internalised ableism people have and other factors, but I'm not here to be an as hole and judge, but I should considering you've done that to me"

I'm not really doing anything except giving back what you've been doing to me since joining the Wiki.

"Like, how dare you try to badmouth me when you're seriously hitting your own pet peeves right on the head of the nail. If you really have that much of a problem with my OC, you need to either tell me, or just blatantly express it because you think you're so cute and edgy with the vague condescending call out nonsense, and I am not having it."

Yeah I have a problem with your OCs. They're boring to me. I read over her page and to me it came of as conceited and written by someone who was full of themselves. Now reading this delightful little response here has proven my point. So that being said I have a pretty huge problem with you because seeing the times you've posted around you come off as someone who's bitter about their "impeccable" little characters not getting attention. Also the whole "characters who have nice art on their profiles are flat and bland!" shitfest which really irritated me as opposed to "this character is flat and bland heres why" and providing any useful critique. But no, you come off as a huge hypocrite. You're the type of person that I hate on this Wiki. The kind who sees making characters as some fucking competitive sport rather than just having fun with it.

" Calli on the other hand? We have Cerise who's been on the show since it first came out, and yet you still couldn't come up with something other than a Cerise look alike? Okay" 

Also Calli looking like Cerise was intentional however they do not look exactly the same. I've said that before too because it was jokingly stated that coyotes look like wolves. Other than the fact that they both have long ears and similar hair that's where the simlarities end as far as I'm concerned. So yeah they are suppose to look similar because that's how I planned it. Calli is signficantly shorter however, and her hair isn't nearly as clean cut. You know what? I'm not even going to defend this point too much because I'm sure you'll just sit and spin on the concept of "CALLI IS A CERISE LOOK ALIKE" rather than notice the difference between the coyote and the wolf. Take away the white hairstreaks and big fluffy ears, that's where the similarities end. So yeah I do see that. A lot better than you do in fact.

That being said I could give less of a shit with what you think of my OC. She's still a work in progress. She's also my first OC. Mistakes are going to be made. Cliches found. Unlike you who apparantly has time in the world to plant her ass on the computer and use installments of Gossip Girl on her OCs page, while offhandedly calling other people's OCs "bland" for having nice art, I do have a life outside this Wiki so I don't have the time to nitpick over every little thing to make my OC "impeccable" and "perfect".

I don't expect anyone to be "intimidated" by me in any way. That's not my intention here on the Wiki. But I sure as shit fire am not going to sit back and smile pleasantly while some asshat takes a shit on my head. I can gurantee you that right now.

"I don't think she would have as many friends considering the internalised ableism people have and other factors"

I'll make myself clear again, these relationships were built upon INTERACTION inside and outside of roleplay. There are more characterst that hate/dislike Calli than there are the ones who are friends with her. She's a mean character. She was always SUPPOSE to be a mean character. Not a sociopath. Unlike you who wants to make a Mary Sueish character who is just oh so nice and sweet and cute tee hee! I swear to god. My eyes roll so hard my retinas sting.

But I'm sure it's much easier for you to believe that Calli is a sociopathical Cerise look alike because god forbid I make a character who isn't conventially a perfect little princess who everyone just loves so much and who's just so "perfect" and "impeccable". Oh and I have my head shoved far up my ass for wanting to be different and making an OC that isn't European and is obscure. That's pretty hilarious coming from someone like you. I'm not here to continue on arguing, and I'm simply here to set some facts straight in a civil manner because I'm not sure if you genuinely have the wrong idea or if you're purposely trying twisting my words around in your favour.

Foremost, I'm not really "frothing" at the mouth or anything, I'm just trying to defend myself because you didn't have to vaguely come after me like that. It was a little uncalled for because this thread is for pet peeves, and not for describing the OC you don't like, as the anon mentioned. If you really have such a problem with me you should've take it, literally.... anywhere else.

I can understand why you'd assume that about me being bitter or whatever, but you have to realise that those comments are really old and during a time where yeah, was pretty pissed off that my OCS weren't getting attention because I thought they were the shit at the time. I guess I come off as thinking theyre great now, but that's much more toned down because I've seen people on the wiki turning into a competition, and I saw how childish that was and guess what? I grew up because that's what people do. Excuse me for liking my OCS and thing some confidence in them because they're also my first OCS, and I'm telling you that because you're making it seem like I've made OCS before and that's not the case, so you can't really defend yourself with that line.

Second, you pretty much misunderstood my whole argument. You assume that I was saying you had your head up your ass for using something more obscure, but that's not really the case at all. It's good that you're using a tale from Native American folklore (I'm a little shifty about classifying them as a whole since there's hundreds of trines, but eh). It's nice to see more diversity in the OC community, so I'm not bad mouthing that at all. Wh I'm bad mouthing is the fact that you act kind of elitist for using something more obscure and you belittle people for using tales that are European and well known.

You know how you mentioned using coyotes and Native American folklore because of your fascination? Well, that's exactly what I'm doing with European tales. I didn't grow up knowing any of that, I grew up on old traditional Mayan myths and something a bit more modern such as Guatemalan folklore. The works of Christian Andersen, Grimm Brothers, Lang, Beaumont, D'Aulnoy are all very new to me so of course I'm enthralled with them and I really wanna work with them. I'm branching out into some tales from Asia, specifically Japan, and I wish you wouldn't call me narrow minded and unoriginal for using