Board Thread:Fanon Discussion/@comment-4598697-20150920010905/@comment-27226023-20150921054626

Captain Frosty wrote: SnickerSnack "Second, you pretty much misunderstood my whole argument. You assume that I was saying you had your head up your ass for using something more obscure, but that's not really the case at all. It's good that you're using a tale from Native American folklore (I'm a little shifty about classifying them as a whole since there's hundreds of trines, but eh). It's nice to see more diversity in the OC community, so I'm not bad mouthing that at all. Wh I'm bad mouthing is the fact that you act kind of elitist for using something more obscure and you belittle people for using tales that are European and well known."

After my little cloak and dagger comment I simply said that there was more diversity/culture, on the Wiki. And by the logic of this post then, apparantly everyone in this thread has their own head shoved up their asshole. At no point was I belittling for stating an opinion centered around the theme of this thread. I simply stated that she was non-european and obscure.

"Excuse me for liking my OCS and thing some confidence in them because they're also my first OCS, and I'm telling you that because you're making it seem like I've made OCS before and that's not the case, so you can't really defend yourself with that line."

I'm not defending any line. I'm proud of my OC. I'm proud that she was the first coyote girl on the Wiki. I'm proud of the work that went into creating her bio as a whole. I'm proud of it but you know what? I'll never be happy with it because Calli is a character that's still growing, still being tweaked, still having idieas formulating. I'm not the one here though pretending it's just the "perfect" OC and having a shitfest on a discussion board when someone says otherwise. This isn't the first time you've done this too. And according to your twisted logic I just made a coyote girl to seem "hip" and "edgy".

""''I can understand why you'd assume that about me being bitter or whatever, but you have to realise that those comments are really old and during a time where yeah, was pretty pissed off that my OCS weren't getting attention because I thought they were the shit at the time. I guess I come off as thinking theyre great now, but that's much more toned down because I've seen people on the wiki turning into a competition, and I saw how childish that was and guess what? I grew up because that's what people do.''"

This has blown over but it isn't that old news:

Exhibit A: "People who fall into the same category as myself with the well developed OCS and no art are sick and tired of being belittled and ignored because we don't have art, but we're not complaining. I don't know why you're complaining because you have great art, and somewhat decent OCS, and yet you still wanna find things to complain about so I don't understand?"

Exhibit B: "Im just glad my OCS aren't to the point where they're self reliant on art and cardboard personalities to life them up, and I'm definitely glad that they don't get attention because I'm an admin or someone else in the wiki popularity circle. Like at least when I get a rare bit of attention on any of my pages, its because my characters actually have the personality an fucking decency to stand alone without all that stuff, and that's a lot coming from someone who can't even be bothered to complete their pages lmao."

Hm old habits are hard to break I guess...Also you just derailed the entire point of the blog just to throw a bitchfit about how your characters rather than addressing the issue at hand. That says something about you. It isn't good.

"Now your opinion of my OC is your opinion and I don't care because nothing will change that and people have opinions. You can call my OC a Mary Sue, alright then ifbeing nice and feminine is your idea of a Mary Sue then that's fine. I'm not a fan of yours either because she's an obvious example of one of those "not like other girls" type of OC, and eh, that's over done as heck and low key misogynistic. If you really want to stand by calling my OC a Sue, then so be it. If I was truly so hurt and offended by it, then I'd suggest we both take a Mary Sue test and compare the outcomes but that's a waste of time."

Oh wow wow wow WOW. Someone doesn't do their homework. That's funny that someone being a tomboy immediately falls under the category of low key misogyny. Me being who I am is low key misogyny? Now who has their head up their ass? That was a very failed attempt at insluting my character. The "not like other girls" bullshit is pretty heinous and me making a tomboyish character wasn't for the soul perhaps to belittle those who were girly. Calli's page isn't filled with rants of how different she is from the "other girls" in the school or demonizing Apple White because fo her feminity (in fact theyr'e well known to each other). No it's filled with personality and why the way she is and why she behaves the way that she does beause, unlike you, I don't shit out the relationships that define my character. Yeah they're important but that's not the only thing going for her. There's more in her persoanlity than there is in other aspects of the page because that's the one of the most important facets. And if you think her being a tomboyish immediately pegs her having interalise misygony then there's something really wrong with you. Like big time. Me making a tomboyish character has nothing to do with that troupe. Do you even know what it means? I don't think you with what the context that lead you to that point. Also, I have trouble writing girls. I'm good at writing boys. Calli being a tomboy made it much easier for me to write her because that is something I relate to. There's nothing wrong with being a tomboy and you can be one without being 'internally misogynistic.

"I also don't appreciate you saying that my pages sound like they're written by "someone who's full of themselves". It's my diction, that's how I talk, and that's how I write. I'm sorry that how I learned English isn't up to your standards."

The entire profile had a conceited attitude of how "cutesy" she is. How magical her laughter is. And spieling details about how much of a perfect snowflake she is.

"I'm not here to continue on arguing, and I'm simply here to set some facts straight in a civil manner because I'm not sure if you genuinely have the wrong idea or if you're purposely trying twisting my words around in your favou"

Oh really? Because given the nature of your post it sure seems like you are.